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Opinion on humor in the Hobbit

MEIGWIT Bree Jan 2 2015, 12:32am Views: 1379

Opinion on humor in the Hobbit I personally grew up on Jerry Lewis and cartoons. If you don't know Jerry Lewis, please treat yourself to the comic genius. In any case, I grew up on slapstick as it were. I'm very aware as a theatrically trained actor myself there are many types of comedy. However, to me there are two: slapstick and witty banter. In the Hobbit, it seems to me that many are divided on how good the films are because of the type of comedy. Much of the Hobbit's comedy comes from Peter Jackson's childlike slapstick mind. I personally find it brilliant because it is far from cynical and open to wonder. However, it seems to upset many. And many seem to be those that enjoy the smarter and witty comedy rather than childlike wonder filled slapstick. In any case, please share your view on the comedy in the Hobbit. The main reason I'm interested is because I loved Alfred's role in BOFA. I thought he was beyond necessary for my heart because I knew the drama that was coming with Fili, Kili, and Thorin. I love slapstick, I think it is very real in life, very true to life, but I think it is something we as humans try to sweep under the rug in our own real life because it is not a pretty picture in the moment. But yet it is true whether we like it or not as humans and that is why I find it beautiful. But please tell me why you either do like Peter's humor, the humor of the Hobbit, or don't. Tell me why you like Alfred or don't. What kind of humor you prefer and why. What kind of humor you would have preferred, if any, in the Hobbit and why? I genuinely just want to know other's viewpoints in as much detail as you have time to tell! Thanks! It is the little things in life that keep the darkness at bay.

Glorfindela Valinor Jan 2 2015, 12:43am Views: 931

(Because I have been imbibing fine wine, again, with my family this New Year's day!), I really, really enjoy the kind of slapstick comedy that is produced by Martin Freeman. I don't enjoy the 'gross' type of humour that PJ seems to favour, though, like snot and burping and that kind of thing. I thought Alfrid was absolutely fine in the film as a light relief from some heavy things, but I am glad we didn't get more of him.

Morthoron Gondor Jan 2 2015, 12:45am Views: 947

I found what little humor there was to be forced and banal. The entire Alfrid shtick was unnecessary, and he walking away with a "chest-full" of gold without any further ado was one of many dumb half-finished sequences in an altogether untidy film. However, it was the unintended comedy during moments of high drama that I found hilarious (as did many folks in the theater). In fact, My daughter's best take away from the movie? A premise for a commercial: *Galadriel (in between faints) is green and ranting and shaking the foundations of Dol Guldur* Elrond: Here, Galadriel, have a Snickers' bar. Galadriel: What's this for? Elrond: You are not yourself when you're hungry. *Galadriel bites the chocolate bar dramatically and chews in slow-mo* Galadriel: I shall just be Galadriel and pass into the West. Please visit my blog...The Dark Elf File...a slighty skewed journal of music and literary comment, fan-fiction and interminable essays.

Glorfindela Valinor Jan 2 2015, 12:49am Views: 923

What are you talking about? Does this refer to something that was shown in FotR? In fact, My daughter's best take away from the movie? A premise for a commercial: *Galadriel (in between faints) is green and ranting and shaking the foundations of Dol Guldur* Elrond: Here, Galadriel, have a Snickers' bar. Galadriel: What's this for? Elrond: You are not yourself when you're hungry. *Galadriel bites the chocolate bar dramatically and chews in slow-mo* Galadriel: I shall just be Galadriel and pass into the West.

Ham_Sammy Tol Eressea Jan 2 2015, 12:50am Views: 889

Not a fan of the humor. I don't care for the burping, belching, and OTT humor such as Alfrid which I kind of find insipid. I thought there was too much Afrid. Some of it was fine but it got to be over the top and way too much screen time.. I get it's what PJ wants to do but Im not a fan of it. No. All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you, Gandalf the Grey (This post was edited by Ham_Sammy on Jan 2 2015, 12:51am)

Morthoron Gondor Jan 2 2015, 12:52am Views: 910

Didn't you see the movie? Galadriel had the same Technicolor grand mal seizure in BoFA as she did in FotR. We thought she maybe needed sugar for her hypoglycemia. Please visit my blog...The Dark Elf File...a slighty skewed journal of music and literary comment, fan-fiction and interminable essays.

Ham_Sammy Tol Eressea Jan 2 2015, 12:57am Views: 871

That scene didn't bother me at all. I didn't find it funny. I know my son hated how they turned her nuclear like FOTR, but it didn't bother me. Neither of us found it funny. All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you, Gandalf the Grey (This post was edited by Ham_Sammy on Jan 2 2015, 12:58am)

Morthoron Gondor Jan 2 2015, 12:59am Views: 847

True, Magpie m'dear. They can always look up Snickers' commercials on Youtube // Please visit my blog...The Dark Elf File...a slighty skewed journal of music and literary comment, fan-fiction and interminable essays.

Spriggan Tol Eressea Jan 2 2015, 1:01am Views: 872

I suppose my first thought would be that humour is very much a buffet and there are no universals. Things that I'm sure others do find funny, like Bombur in his barrel, aren't designed for middle aged people with beards and mortgages (in the main) but I don't think we should have any issue with that. Instead they might have a chuckle at an embarrassed Freeman facial safari, which might well not hit home with the Bombur-barrel-boys-and-girls. To turn to Alfrid, I would say he was genuinely funny. The humour was broad, but well timed and delivered (as was Fry's Master, for that matter). My issue with it was one of tonal shifts, to which the comedy of Alfrid contributed, along with other things. I think it's fine, indeed beneficial, to have shifts of tone, richness and counterpoint but with BOFA, as with AUJ, I felt that I could hear the gears grinding. In particular, I recall a scene early on, when the Laketowners are gathered on the shore, where, in the same frame, you have Bard in the left of the screen playing something grave and serious and Alfrid on the right playing something broad and funny. The problem for me was that I couldn't tell if that was a comic scene with a serious aspect for counterpoint or a serious scene with a comic aspect for counterpoint. Is it a drama with comic relief, a comedy drama, a black comedy, a post-modern fantasy, a rambunctious adventure etc.? It may be, in both AUJ and BOFA, an issue of changing the pacing after certain elements were shot and thus proportions of tone being slightly different in the finished product, but, for me, there was a sense of tonal confusion.

Ham_Sammy Tol Eressea Jan 2 2015, 1:04am Views: 857

I agree and the reason I didn't like a lot of Alfrid's stuff is it was almost forced. Like "oh we are having a serious scene here we need comic relief" insert Alfrid. I found it kind of strange. I certainly didn't ruin the movie for me, It just wasn't one of my favorite things about it. And honestly. I didn't like Fry at all in this role. I don't know. Something about it just seemed forced although I think in Five Armies he was better than DoS. But then I didn't care for DoS a lot so I may be jaded in that respect. All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you, Gandalf the Grey

Magpie Immortal Jan 2 2015, 1:07am Views: 846

They could if you gave enough context for them to do that... ...or a link, which I gave them. I thought your post was funny so this isn't me criticizing anything. I suspect Glorfindela was just confused what your point was because they didn't realize you were riffing off a whole series of commercials. But I don't want to presume too much on G's part. LOTR soundtrack website ~ magpie avatar gallery TORn History Mathom-house ~ Torn Image Posting Guide

Glorfindela Valinor Jan 2 2015, 1:09am Views: 833

Perhaps the gross humour in particular jarred with the serious moments in the films� However, I sort of accept that PJ must have his 'fun' moments � though many of us don't agree that they are 'fun' in particular.

Ham_Sammy Tol Eressea Jan 2 2015, 1:11am Views: 829

He wanted to have his fun moments. I can give him that. Even if I don't appreciate them, I can still enjoy the film overall. All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you, Gandalf the Grey

Glorfindela Valinor Jan 2 2015, 1:14am Views: 852

Now I'm thoroughly confused. Think I'll leave this one alone � it's too much for my small brain to cope with at 1.14 a.m. ...or a link, which I gave them. I thought your post was funny so this isn't me criticizing anything. I suspect Glorfindela was just confused what your point was because they didn't realize you were riffing off a whole series of commercials. But I don't want to presume too much on G's part.

Nevrast Bree Jan 2 2015, 1:28am Views: 852

PJ's doesn't resemble Tolkien's humour very much The Hobbit is a funny book, and yes, there are challenges in bringing humour from the page onto the screen but it seems like PJ doesn't even really get why The Hobbit was funny and charming and just inserted his own not funny humour instead, way too often. "I don't like green food" seriously? Belching? Alfrid? I was excited to see that Stephen Fry was cast, but he's just totally not funny because the role is taken completely over the top with a million PJisms. Chamber pot jokes, excessively gross hair... PJ seems to have lost what subtlety he once had some of in comedy and in other areas. The only parts that are actually funny in The Hobbit seem to be through the sheer force of Martin Freeman's comedic skill alone.

Ham_Sammy Tol Eressea Jan 2 2015, 1:34am Views: 817

Freeman had the best comedy in the 3 movies. As I said I really liked AUJ and Five Armies. DoS not so much. But Freeman's "Put that Pouf back" and the way he takes the spoons from Lobelia, and his facial expressions when he's under the butt of the troll and he gets a whiff. Now those were good comedic moments for me. Afrid and the Master, not so much. And I like Stephen Fry a lot. Like you I was looking forward to it but alas it wasn't what I had hoped. I will say I did enjoy Thorin's taunting of Smaug in DoS calling him a "Witless Wyrm". Now that for me was a funny moment in a serious setting but it worked totally and Armitage pulled it off very well. All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you, Gandalf the Grey

Spriggan Tol Eressea Jan 2 2015, 1:46am Views: 822

I wouldn't say the Hobbit is a funny book. There are "humorous" things in it, but I suspect you would struggle to pick any out and get a laugh from someone you told them to. Humour is always contextual, usually involves a transgression of some sort (even if only of expectation) and so does often lose its effect with age. I think that's why "humour" is often wrapped up with "charm". We can see the humorous intent, and can appreciate it but it's not quite the same as actually making people (most people) laugh. In fairness, I suspect the films do generate more actual laughs from their humorous moments than the book.

Morthoron Gondor Jan 2 2015, 2:19am Views: 787

I would say it seems you haven't read the book... In fairness, I suspect the films do generate more actual laughs from their humorous moments than the book. Really? What exactly did you find funny in the movies that was not already in the book? It would seem to me that any extraneous material in the movies was not funny at all but sophomoric and juvenile and usually centering around the gross as is Jackson's penchant for the low (i.e., snot, farts, pratfalls, etc.). Subtle Jackson is not. Tolkien's humor is much dryer, and that befits a stodgy Hobbit (and British humor in general). As I stated previously in this thread, I found things funny in an ironic manner that had nothing to do with failed comic bits in the films. Please visit my blog...The Dark Elf File...a slighty skewed journal of music and literary comment, fan-fiction and interminable essays.

Spriggan Tol Eressea Jan 2 2015, 2:28am Views: 774

Sigh. Yes, that's it. I haven't read the book.

Roheryn Tol Eressea Jan 2 2015, 2:36am Views: 773

I have to admit I don't care for the gross humor a la the trolls and Goblin King. Those bits just take me out of the moment; I get enough of that sort of thing at home with three young kids and I don't need to see it in Middle-earth too. Alfrid falls somewhere between doesn't-bother-me and actually funny (I love the bit where Bard saves him from a lynching, then when Alfrid tries to stand up Bard unceremoniously shoves him back to the ground -- makes me laugh every time). The one time I didn't like Alfrid -- and right there it wasn't his fault -- was in the "Your slip is showing" scene with him and Bard. That scene would have made me laugh anywhere else. However, as with anyone who knows the book, I knew what was just about to happen to Thorin and his nephews, and all I could think was how I couldn't possibly laugh at ANYTHING when Thorin is just about to be killed. Possibly a misplaced sense of loyalty, I suppose, but that was my gut reaction: "Nothing's funny when Thorin's about to die!"

Morthoron Gondor Jan 2 2015, 2:40am Views: 769

Your sighs are meaningless... Again, if you've read the book (I must assume your sigh was elicited for sarcastic purposes, or you are ignorant of the book), then what exactly makes the movies funnier? What was so humorous to you in the films that was not already in the book? Having seen the films, I saw no added material I could deem laugh out loud funny. There was plenty of inanity one might roll their eyes at (Goblintown chute 'n' ladders(TM), surfing molten gold, bat taxis, gravity-defying Road Runner cartoon material, etc.) but nothing clever. Unless, of course, troll snot makes you giggle. Please visit my blog...The Dark Elf File...a slighty skewed journal of music and literary comment, fan-fiction and interminable essays.

Starling Half-elven Jan 2 2015, 2:43am Views: 776

juvenile, lacking in subtlety, and really into gross stuff too. I expect we are probably sophomoric as well, if only I knew what that was...

Spriggan Tol Eressea Jan 2 2015, 2:47am Views: 758

And yet you have understood the meaning perfectly. Congratulations on solving the riddle.

Morthoron Gondor Jan 2 2015, 2:53am Views: 767

Your continued evasion of the question is the only riddle... And since you can't be forthright, I can only assume you have nothing germane to offer to back up your initial comments. Please visit my blog...The Dark Elf File...a slighty skewed journal of music and literary comment, fan-fiction and interminable essays.

NamoMandos The Shire Jan 2 2015, 2:54am Views: 775

Humour is not PJ's strong suit I agree, as others have said, that the most effective instances of humour in TH (and, I think, in LOTR as well), come from the delivery of the actors rather than the script itself. PJ's humour style is far too non-subtle and non-clever much of the time, but his actors sometimes bail him out (and sometimes not).

Spriggan Tol Eressea Jan 2 2015, 2:57am Views: 762

Oh, was there a question? I thought we were still at the stage where one of us was explaining dry "British" humour to the other.

Morthoron Gondor Jan 2 2015, 3:02am Views: 768

If you need further assistance on the subject... I could offer you a list of films that are actually funny in that vein. Books as well. It may take you some time to catch up, but I am more than willing to wait. But please, no need to thank me. I am just a light in dark places. Please visit my blog...The Dark Elf File...a slighty skewed journal of music and literary comment, fan-fiction and interminable essays.

Spriggan Tol Eressea Jan 2 2015, 3:10am Views: 761

And you're clearly trying, as well. By all means, send me the list and I'll look forward to chatting again the moment I have watched and read each item a few times. I'm not sure I think of it as a visual metaphor of a light so much as a voice echoing from a dark place but either way, I hope you can tell how much I appreciate it.

Bishop Gondor Jan 2 2015, 3:30am Views: 769

It's from the tetanus, from all that walking around in her bare feet. Especially in Dol Guldur.

Bishop Gondor Jan 2 2015, 4:04am Views: 739

Humor is so subjective, it's hard to say what works best for anyone Also it entirely depends on the context. Different kinds of humor work for different kinds of genres. In The Hobbit I have consistently preferred humor that is more charming than crude. For example Bilbo telling a goblet to "Shusshh" is amazing. Bilbo's sudden realization that he has no where to go after the barrels roll away is hilarious. Bombur's scaredy-cat power run past the rest of the Dwarves is pretty classic. Then there are some things that don't work for me. I don't even mind the toilet so much, but spitting out toilet water? Come on. "There could be anything down my trousers". Why? Bard making jokes about another man's wife? Just ugly. Overall I feel there is a pretty good balance in the film in types of humor, but I still cringe during many many moments, and I never expected that would happen before I saw the films.

Ham_Sammy Tol Eressea Jan 2 2015, 4:28am Views: 725

Bilbo's treasure shushing is some of my favorite humor moments in the films. All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you, Gandalf the Grey

moreorless Gondor Jan 2 2015, 5:49am Views: 710

I think thats a bit unfair... I agree and the reason I didn't like a lot of Alfrid's stuff is it was almost forced. Like "oh we are having a serious scene here we need comic relief" insert Alfrid. I found it kind of strange. I certainly didn't ruin the movie for me, It just wasn't one of my favorite things about it. And honestly. I didn't like Fry at all in this role. I don't know. Something about it just seemed forced although I think in Five Armies he was better than DoS. But then I didn't care for DoS a lot so I may be jaded in that respect. I would say its a bit unfair to Jackson to phase it that way as I think what stands out in his Tolkien films(and indeed in Kong) is that he is willing to play the dramatic scenes straight and long. That's in direct opposition to your typical blockbuster that seems to always throw in a comedy line or action to defuse any drama lest 14 year old boys start to feel uncomfortable. It stands out even moreso I would say with Freeman as Bilbo who would have been more than capable of doing that kind of thing had he been asked to. I feel like is anything Alfird is used in the reverse fashion, that is his ingenuine cartoonish outbursts are used to play up the real drama around him. (This post was edited by moreorless on Jan 2 2015, 5:51am)

patrickk Rohan Jan 2 2015, 7:37am Views: 696

What is the issue with bare feet... ...Galadrial and the hobbits - so what!!! Perfect in my mind

Eleniel Tol Eressea Jan 2 2015, 8:38am Views: 686

Indeed - I much prefer the visual slapstick kind of humour... ...particularly Freeman's, to the gross, toilet humour Jackson seems to love so much. Not just the burping, farting, troll snot, and "floaters" I dislike but the treatment of the dialogue to include contents of trouser jokes, and lines such as Ori's sticking it "up his jacksie" from the same writers who profess to revere Professor Tolkien... "Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened." � Victoria Monfort

patrickk Rohan Jan 2 2015, 8:54am Views: 686

All that is classic British humour... ...which dates back to well before the 1930s (to Chaucer and Shakespeare in fact), and which Tolkien wold have been well aware of. The other humour element many markets won't like is the use of irony. The Master of Laketown being the 'master'.

Eleniel Tol Eressea Jan 2 2015, 8:58am Views: 677

but there was none of that kind of humour in the book, even though it was aimed at children...and Tolkien, who understood the correct usage of words, particularly in terms of historical authenticity and appropriateness, would probably have been horrified at the modern slang terms introduced by the scriptwriters. "Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened." � Victoria Monfort

patrickk Rohan Jan 2 2015, 9:21am Views: 669

I am not sure which slang terms you are referring to as modern ... but some probably dates back to Chaucer as well. 'Jacksie' as recent 1896; and from Dain 'sod off' at the same time 19th C, 'bugger' 16th century . Not sure of the modern one you are thinking of, but they are the ones I heard and all predated Tolkien in terms of common usage; so we are really talking sensibilities which of course is down to taste and what children find funny, and what Tolkien thought they should find funny).

Eleniel Tol Eressea Jan 2 2015, 10:10am Views: 664

I believe I read somewhere... (may have been Shippey "The Road to Middle-earth" or suchlike but I can't instantly put my hand to it) that Tolkien, wherever possible, only used words of Anglo-Saxon or pre-Norman conquest origin.... This discussion on another Tolkien forum may be of interest: http://www.lotrplaza.com/...20Age&TID=126908 "Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened." � Victoria Monfort

Spriggan Tol Eressea Jan 2 2015, 12:10pm Views: 644

Personally, those examples you mention also worked for me. Just from BOFA, Freeman does a fair bit of good humour work in the auction scene too, I think. His physical humour sneaking in the background of Dale drew a chuckle and certainly his line with the Elvenking was a funny concept. I also thought there was a complex but genuine humour in the Bilbo/Gandalf pipe cleaning scene, to name a few. The more "juvenile" humour isn't for me but clearly seems to work for others in the cinemas I have been present in, so I don't begrudge it. This with the possible exception of the "bollocks" line from the DOS EE, which I did think was funny and well delivered (along with the "twittering").

Elarie Grey Havens Jan 2 2015, 1:33pm Views: 624

Good one __________________ Gold is the strife of kinsmen, and fire of the flood-tide, and the path of the serpent. (Old Icelandic Fe rune poem)

Bishop Gondor Jan 2 2015, 2:00pm Views: 611

I have sincerely thought for all this time that Ori was saying "I'll give him a taste of dwarfish iron right up his jackson".

mae govannen Tol Eressea Jan 2 2015, 2:03pm Views: 618

There is definitely a common ground between JRRT's and PJ's humour: that shows not so much in Tolkien's writings (although it sometimes does), but in dear JRRT's own jokes in real life, as he is the first to point out in his Letters, quoted here from H. Carpenter's bio of him: At the end of the summer term of 1911, his last at his beloved King Edward's, he was as usual participating in the yearly Greek play just staged, and here is how, years later, he described his contribution: 'The school-porter was sent by waiting relatives to find me. He reported that my appearance might be delayed. "Just now", he said, "he is the life and soul of the party." Tactful. In fact, having just taken part in a Greek play, I was clad in a himation and sandals,and was giving what I thought was a fair imitation of a frenzied Bacchic dance.' Even as an adult he didn't improve much on the refined humour side: 'He could laugh at anybody, but most of all at himself, and his complete lack of any sense of dignity could and often did make him behave like a riotous schoolboy. At a New Year Eve's party in the nineteen thirties he would don an Icelandic sheepskin hearthrug and paint his face white to impersonate a polar bear, or he would dress up as an Anglo-Saxon warrior complete with axe and chase an astonished neighbour down the road. Later in life he delighted to offer inattentive shopkeepers his false teeth among a handful of change. "I have", he once wrote,"a very simple sense of humour, which even my appreciative critics find tiresome."' Yes, JRRT himself was more complex than many of us like to admit, on these Boards where discussions do tend to get quickly polarized between extreme views that do not take into account the actual complexity of, in this specific case, either JRRT or PJ. 'Is everything sad going to come untrue?' (Sam, 'The Field of Cormallen', in 'The Return of the King'.)

mae govannen Tol Eressea Jan 2 2015, 2:11pm Views: 604

Yet some people love it just as it is!... I myself do enjoy the whole spectrum of fun he puts in those movies - and already did even in the LOTR ones as well, usually kept for the EEs...! 'Is everything sad going to come untrue?' (Sam, 'The Field of Cormallen', in 'The Return of the King'.)

Elarie Grey Havens Jan 2 2015, 2:15pm Views: 623

The character based humor is usually my favorite People saying and doing things that wouldn't be nearly as funny if a different person had done them. Dwalin's very laconic, "That'll be the door" while eating Bilbo's supper Kili's big grin while saying, "You must be Mr. Boggins!" Bofur's classic dragon description, "Think furnace with wings!" (still my favorite) The absurdity of 3 huge man-eating trolls cosily discussing herbs and recipes in their Cockney accents Thorin's perfectly delivered polite rudeness when he tells Elrond, "he never mentioned YOU" Tauriel effortlessly topping Kili's trouser joke with, "Or nothing" as she slams the door in his face (apparently those woodland she-elfs have plenty of experience with bad pick-up lines). The Master telling Alfrid, "They're commoners, Alfrid, they've always been ugly" And so many more, including sometimes just great facial expression with no dialogue at all. The rowdy, slapstick humor doesn't bother me at all and sometimes gives me a chuckle, but then I grew up with four brothers and then spent six years in the military, so there's not much Jackson can teach me about juvenile male humor. And I have to say, every time I saw DOS in the theater it was Bombur's Olympic Barrel Bounce and Dwalin emerging from the toilet that always got the biggest laugh from the audience, so a lot of people do appreciate silly, visual humor like that. __________________ Gold is the strife of kinsmen, and fire of the flood-tide, and the path of the serpent. (Old Icelandic Fe rune poem)

elostirion74 Rohan Jan 2 2015, 10:22pm Views: 557

I like much of the humor in The Hobbit films I cannot remember being upset or offended by any of the humor in the films (theatrical editions), but there's a big difference for me between humor which is a part of the characterization in the films, a part of the film's genuine flair and the humor which I don't feel has anything to contribute to a given situation or the storyline in general. There's a lot of great character based humor in the Hobbit films, especially in AUJ, but there's also a string of humor in the films which I tend to think of as, well, rather banal. In terms of character based humor there really is a lot to choose from. You have the first encounters between Bilbo and Balin, Dwalin (the dinner scene with Dwalin & Bilbo in the kitchen is priceless from start to finish), Fili and Kili. Not to mention Bofur's michievous grins and comments at the start of "Crack the plates" and how he sells the task of being a burglar to Bilbo. There are just tons of wonderful character based humor involving Bilbo reacting to the unlikely situations around him (the shock when he sees Dwalin for instance, his indignation at the mention of the mark on his newly painted door etc etc), not to mention how he bides for time with the trolls and his dithering when a wolf is impaled on his sword and he wonders how to go about retrieving his weapon. You've got Bombur's barrel attack in DoS and how he sprints past the other dwarves to escape Beorn's pursuit - the latter is a a classic type of humor. You've got the ill-mannered trolls in all seriousness discussing how to season the dwarves - this kind of contrast is a great set up for comedy IMO. And of course Radagast, where his absentmindedness and the charm and humor which follows it says so much about his character IMO.. In terms of typical witty banter, you've got the exchange between Thranduil & Bilbo in BoTFA about stealing the keys - really enjoyed that The more banal humor involves the bread tossing and the burping - we already know that the dwarves are quite blunt, so these elements really aren't neccessary - the film could have managed without them (but they don't ruin anything either). The humor related to Alfrid in BoFA got some laughs from me, but when it comes to him there's much of the same kind of humor when you've already got the point and that's what some of my friends disliked about his scenes.

Rembrethil Tol Eressea Jan 3 2015, 2:06am Views: 541

Exactly how I see it. Well-spoken! Call me Rem, and remember, not all who ramble are lost...Uh...where was I?

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